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sKy,
waleykum as-salam.
congrats on half- liberating islam_chat from an OP who isn't fit to be OP and this became apparent with my debacle. I'll ask u to re-think your decision on continue to grant power to such individual who have displayed neurotic anti-social behavior
I was luckily the BOLD enough to speak out in forum n had long exchange of posts etc etc(which were time-consuming).. not everyone has that time/energy/coherency level to make such cases, often people's first language is NOT English being one of the reasons. But it wasnt just about me, or my freedom. I wanted a long term solution. Reason i made a big case to point out to you was after hearing numerous complains about her oppressive behavior from other victims (who haven't made effort to raise voice/complain in forums) so i felt someone needs to do it... or this will continue.. so we need to reverse this n look for longterm/permanent solution and i'll give u reasons WHY
Result of Action (is this complete solution? )
so now that i am unbanned,akick i can re-unite with fellow virtual muslim community & chat and practice (quran 49:13) and remind each other n giv naseeha n live in peace (i plan to do that).
I fore-see this OP if remain in power will get in my path once again for some other reason because as she has expressed she will do everything to keep me unbanned even over-ride the superior op's (yourself) because she is under the impression she is saving muslim ummah from the "likes of me" who are liberal and threat to islam, if i can recall these her some of her sentiments. Altho i claim to follow the Salaf-us-Saleh n take the moderation approach (wasatiyyah) be upon the middle path as prophet advised, sometimes it comes across as liberal to some. At 1 point tv/phone was considered haram (called devil box) in saudia we chuckle now...
Sky, with all due respect, in your reply i sensed something to the effect of " lets just pretend like nothing happened, she is this way lets not make her angry again" n yea lets continue the way thiings were.. sure i'd comply with your suggestion (u are man of authority, EOD) so i would get out of her away n not mention her. BUT that is not properly handling the situation in my VIEW.
So unbanning me is half the correction (u had 20 days to make decision? may be u were busy, it is ok, we all have life outside online platforms) i feel in this case, we need the root cause to be eliminated, anytime any OP is being "irresponsible" enough to say i will over-ride authority to ban a user, it tells me that we have a neurotic behavior and are emotionally unstable. Someone who has no respect for LAW n ORDER and willing to act out on their impulse (how will 1 unban cure the person other than make her angry n comeback to repeat). It may not be me this time, but someone else. Actually she recently kicked me for joining the islam_chat now that i realized ur reply date is July 10. I was in islam_chat last week where she banned me again (i didnot ask,reply because didnt its pointless with this person).. again looks like she has no concern for regulations or may not be aware that u removed the ban, explain to her perhaps... smh.
So, i am questioning... 1) Why would u not strip power/authority from such individual who is not wiling to adhere to the rules of engagement/platform? i'd love to hear your response. 2) what wrong would OP have to do to be remove from power? i think the OP in question violation was flagrant enough to disqualify her from governing the affairs of virtual muslim community here at ICQ server.
you mentioned in llast post in thread.
"but its doesnt mean you are allowed to mock on a sister of fellow admin in the room, next time join room and do decent chat thats it. and dont point out anyone nor be provoking and also avoid targeting behavior. "
first off, i have no reason to target her, mock her or any muslim. I am a servant of Allah, i m grateful to be part of muslim community, im here to serve best i can through advice/quran/sunnah etc etc..
update
#islam_chat unable to join channel (address is banned)
edit: visited #ISLAM_CHAT JULY 21st 2019 6:12PM (EST) still banned... *sigh* moving on.... thx sKy , at-least you tried..what an embarrassment for Muslim community to have this "quality" of OP governing over us.. kinda reminds me of state of ummah n their rulers over them..similar parallel.
waleykum as-salam.
congrats on half- liberating islam_chat from an OP who isn't fit to be OP and this became apparent with my debacle. I'll ask u to re-think your decision on continue to grant power to such individual who have displayed neurotic anti-social behavior
I was luckily the BOLD enough to speak out in forum n had long exchange of posts etc etc(which were time-consuming).. not everyone has that time/energy/coherency level to make such cases, often people's first language is NOT English being one of the reasons. But it wasnt just about me, or my freedom. I wanted a long term solution. Reason i made a big case to point out to you was after hearing numerous complains about her oppressive behavior from other victims (who haven't made effort to raise voice/complain in forums) so i felt someone needs to do it... or this will continue.. so we need to reverse this n look for longterm/permanent solution and i'll give u reasons WHY
Result of Action (is this complete solution? )
so now that i am unbanned,akick i can re-unite with fellow virtual muslim community & chat and practice (quran 49:13) and remind each other n giv naseeha n live in peace (i plan to do that).
I fore-see this OP if remain in power will get in my path once again for some other reason because as she has expressed she will do everything to keep me unbanned even over-ride the superior op's (yourself) because she is under the impression she is saving muslim ummah from the "likes of me" who are liberal and threat to islam, if i can recall these her some of her sentiments. Altho i claim to follow the Salaf-us-Saleh n take the moderation approach (wasatiyyah) be upon the middle path as prophet advised, sometimes it comes across as liberal to some. At 1 point tv/phone was considered haram (called devil box) in saudia we chuckle now...
Sky, with all due respect, in your reply i sensed something to the effect of " lets just pretend like nothing happened, she is this way lets not make her angry again" n yea lets continue the way thiings were.. sure i'd comply with your suggestion (u are man of authority, EOD) so i would get out of her away n not mention her. BUT that is not properly handling the situation in my VIEW.
So unbanning me is half the correction (u had 20 days to make decision? may be u were busy, it is ok, we all have life outside online platforms) i feel in this case, we need the root cause to be eliminated, anytime any OP is being "irresponsible" enough to say i will over-ride authority to ban a user, it tells me that we have a neurotic behavior and are emotionally unstable. Someone who has no respect for LAW n ORDER and willing to act out on their impulse (how will 1 unban cure the person other than make her angry n comeback to repeat). It may not be me this time, but someone else. Actually she recently kicked me for joining the islam_chat now that i realized ur reply date is July 10. I was in islam_chat last week where she banned me again (i didnot ask,reply because didnt its pointless with this person).. again looks like she has no concern for regulations or may not be aware that u removed the ban, explain to her perhaps... smh.
So, i am questioning... 1) Why would u not strip power/authority from such individual who is not wiling to adhere to the rules of engagement/platform? i'd love to hear your response. 2) what wrong would OP have to do to be remove from power? i think the OP in question violation was flagrant enough to disqualify her from governing the affairs of virtual muslim community here at ICQ server.
you mentioned in llast post in thread.
"but its doesnt mean you are allowed to mock on a sister of fellow admin in the room, next time join room and do decent chat thats it. and dont point out anyone nor be provoking and also avoid targeting behavior. "
first off, i have no reason to target her, mock her or any muslim. I am a servant of Allah, i m grateful to be part of muslim community, im here to serve best i can through advice/quran/sunnah etc etc..
update
#islam_chat unable to join channel (address is banned)
edit: visited #ISLAM_CHAT JULY 21st 2019 6:12PM (EST) still banned... *sigh* moving on.... thx sKy , at-least you tried..what an embarrassment for Muslim community to have this "quality" of OP governing over us.. kinda reminds me of state of ummah n their rulers over them..similar parallel.
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